Pregnancy and "Gay" Transmen/Update
The topic to discuss when the Alphabet Soup scolds and Trans extremists are pushing sex with transmen on the Gay community. Update: Impact of HIV vaccines and cure.
When the Alphabet Soup scolds or transmen lecture Gays about refusing to have sex with them, the issues of pregnancy, birth control, and consequences such as child support are entirely omitted.
Yet, the one major and significant thing about Gay sex is that pregnancy isn’t a possibility. Having sex with a transman has the possibility of pregnancy, a really important possibility to consider. It really isn’t something that Gay men normally think about. You would think it would be an important fact to make clear to Gay men when you are pushing transman sex on them.
The courts don’t care whether you call it heterosexual or homogender or whatever, if there is a child and you are the father of the child you are on the hook for child support.
Again, the issue of pregnancy isn’t considered in most of the articles where having sex with transmen is being pushed on the Gay community
For example, the following is a long Advocate piece, with SIXTEEN SECTIONS, pushing the idea that Gay men should be willing to have sex with transmen and giving detailed instructions about how to go about doing it.
Not once, does it mention anything about birth control or pregnancy. SIXTEEN SECTIONS to lecture Gay men about having sex with transmen but no mention of pregnancy or birth control. (I am writing a lengthy review of this article, and will hopefully be releasing it soon. When it is published the link will be at the bottom of this article. )
Yet, transmen having babies is something that is mentioned in the news. There are articles about how transmen get upset when they get periods since it tends to suggest that they aren’t men. This is a video by a transman is about how having a period upsets him. It seems that the companies who sell menstral products orient their marketing towards women.
You don’t know if the transman is having periods or not, and I suspect it is considered very transphobic to be asking. Also, testosterone isn’t birth control.
In this denunciation of Gays who didn’t want to have sex with this him/her/they, nowhere does he/she/they bring up the topic of pregnancy.
https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2021/11/09/62604389/diary-of-a-hole
This is a very prominent writer of the Alphabet Soup who is published in many publications both LGBTQXYX and general press. Pregnancy or birth control isn’t mentioned once.
https://mashable.com/article/no-trans-people-preference-transphobic
Pregnancy and birth control doesn’t appear in this article of the following link in Vice either. Does this person bring along their own birth control, advise Gays that he encounters of the possibility?
https://www.vice.com/en/article/wj9739/hook-up-apps-saunas-clubs-queer-trans-experience
Yet, I suspect that asking a transman to take a morning after pill probably triggers dsyphoria and might be called transphobic.
I think the reason that pregnancy is omitted from the discussion of Gays having sex with transmen is that it tends to show that “Gay” transmen are a distinct catagory from “cis” Gay men who simply won’t be getting pregnant. Pregnancy demolishes the efforts to obscure the difference between “Gay” transmen and Gay men.
Also, pregnancy is the reason that heterosexuality exists, it is how heterosexual activity perpetuates the species. So discussing the issue of pregnancy tends to make sex with transmen seem not very Gay.
One of the great benefits of being Gay is that pregnancy isn’t an issue. When trying to push the idea of Gays having sex with a transman bringing up pregnancy is very likely to be a total turn off, excepting of course those Gays would want to let everyone know what an advanced type individual they are.
HOWEVER, the issue of pregnancy is brought up in media targeted towards transmen. For example the following guide discusses the risk of pregnancy starting on page 30.
https://atq1980.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/A-sex-guide-for-trans-men-into-men.pdf
This article, accessed by the following link, is directed to explaining how you might fool a Gay man into having sex with you without him realizing that you are trans, should be an alert to Gays that you very much need to know exactly what type of hole you are fucking if there is poor or non-existence visibility.
https://www.queertransmen.org/news-and-blogs/~10-Cruising
If you think that since it was done anonymously in the dark or at a bath house and they can’t track you down, you are wrong. The child has DNA and if any of your relatives has done a DNA test for some ancestry service, they can track down your relative. If you have more than one, one one side of the family and the other side of the family, they can narrow it down to a few people.
The ancestry DNA services earn a side income selling the DNA info.
Now if some Gay person wants to have sex with a transman, or even be the father of a child with a transman, that is their choice. Wish them luck in a challenging world.
My objection is the omission of this information from screeds denouncing the Gay community for not having sex with transmen and obscuring the topic of pregnancy in discussions asserting that a Gay transman is interchangeable with a “cis” Gay man.
I think that when you are in a forum or meeting discussing sex with a transman I think you should ask about birth control. Don’t ask it as an argumentative question, just low key, without emotions, ask about birth control. Make sure it is present in the conversation.
UPDATE:
With the new mRNA technology and the new CRISPR genetic editing technology both a mRNA HIV vaccine and and CRISPR cure for HIV are currently starting testing. Additionally other companies are getting ready to start their testing of these two technologies. The possibility of a cure is real.
One of the consequence of a cure is that sex between “cis” Gay men won’t require a condom. Sex with a transman most likely will require a condom given the possibility of a pregnancy.
Incidentally, don’t think because the sex is anonymous in the park or bath house they can’t track you down. If you have a relative who has gotten one of those DNA tests, your relative’s DNA is in a database and those companies sell access to that database. They can tell fairly quickly that a child you had with a transman is related to your relative through DNA matching. Then it is a simple matter of figuring out which of your relative’s relatives live in the town where the child was born and come asking for a DNA sample. Or just start finging out who the “cis” Gay is in the family.
If one relative on one side of the family and another on the other side of the family both got these DNA tests, it is going to narrow down who the father might be considerably.
It doesn’t need to be first cousins or nephews, I am sure with 2nd cousins or 3rd cousins they can take a little time and show up on the door asking for child support.
With some transman you pick up in the bar or you are having anonymous sex with at the bath or some place, you really can’t rely on any assertion that the transman is using birth control It might even be considered dysphoric to use it and transphobic to ask about it.
I don’t think this risk of pregnancy is going to be really a risk for Gay men, since they would be having sex witha vagina, but it is more a risk for a straight guy or bisexual guy that is humoring a transman that they are having same gender sex.
The consequence to Gays is that needing to use a condom or not needing to use a condom will be a dividing line between transmen and “cis” don’t-get-pregnant Gays. I expect trans not to be happy about this. I am not going to be surprised if they want to have safe-sex practices justified on the basis of other diseases. Or some trans demand that Gay men use condoms in solidarity.
It is going to be hard to extend safe-sex practices when HIV isn’t around. Other viral diseases are now targets of mRNA development and I suspect that CRISPR will be applied to other viral targets.
LINKS TO PAGES ON: HIV vaccines and cures and safe sex; HIV general page; and the General Page on Transmen follow in that order.
I have an essay on the possible impacts of HIV vaccines and cures at this link.
HIV Page: About progress on HIV vaccines, HIV cures, and essays on the social and political impacts.
The following are articles about transmen and information resources.