Transman Predator Guide to Deceiving Gay Men.
Not understanding the concept of informed consent.
I came across this article while doing some online research.
Cruising | News and Blogs - Queer Trans Men
Cruising is "The act of walking or driving about a locality in search of a sex partner, usually of the anonymous…www.queertransmen.org
UPDATE: It seems they have pulled this page from their site, however the Internet Archive has it.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211027121735/https://www.queertransmen.org/news-and-blogs/~10-Cruising
Some of it was fairly practical advice about cruising, but a lot of it was about how much do you have to tell the Gay men in a bath house (sauna) or elsewhere or whether you can avoid entirely telling Gay men entirely that you are trans when you have sex with Gay men.
It should be noted that this isn’t something on someone’s personal blog or Facebook page, it is something on the website www.queertransmen.org. It is produced by an Ontario, Canada organization for advice to be given to Transmen who have decided they are Gay.
About Us - Queer Trans Men
Primed: A Sex Guide for Trans Men Into Men was the first sexual health resource written by and for gay, bi and queer…www.queertransmen.org
UPDATE: The above page was deleted, but was archived by the Internet Archive.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220127213743/https://www.queertransmen.org/about-us
(By the way, always save incriminating pages to the Internet Archive at archive.org)
Also, this article should tell you that the interests of the Alphabet Soup and the Gay community are really two different things. The Alphabet Soup establishment is supporting something which is sexual abuse of Gay men.
So, the article almost from the start focuses on whether you have to tell the Gay men that you are a transman or the possibilities of deceiving them.
The author raises the concern a transman might have, that is that transmen might be rejected by “cisguys” a term for Gay men who were born men. The author assures the reader that transmen can find sexual satisfaction at a Gay bath house and emphasizes, “you don’t necessarily have to ‘out yourself’ to join in on the fun.”
The author then gleefully tells how he deceived a Gay man.
I remember one time I was in a bathhouse getting cruised by a guy who noticed my chest scars. He asked what they were from and without really thinking, I told him the first thing that came to mind, which was that I’d been in a car accident and had some ribs removed. The man then asked if there was a gap in my chest and I explained that there wasn’t, because the ribs were replaced by metal ones. The lesson I learned that day was that most people will believe what you tell them, as long as you say it with a straight face. Hell, he probably still tells this story… although maybe not with the same punchline. In fact, in most cruising situations, guys will accept what you tell them without question, providing their own explanations where things don’t seem to fit. Even those who do ask questions, probably won’t consider the possibility that you’re trans.
Yes, the author assures his readers, you too can easily deceive Gay men. The author sees deceiving Gay men as acceptable and a working method for transmen going to Gay bath houses.
It is fairly clear from this story that the author didn’t expect that the Gay man he met at the bath would have had sex with him if the Gay man had known and that this is a tale of triumph in deception. The author’s recommendations are based on the idea that informed the Gay men at the baths wouldn’t have sex with transmen.
Later in his essay he explains what sexual opportunities there are as a transman that avoid risks of being detected as a transman by your sexual partner.
Deception is seen as an integral part of transman sexual activity at a Gay bath house.
The concept of informed consent, a bed rock concept in ethical practice is entirely missing. These transmen are sexual predators.
Also, people rarely ever like being deceived, and in an intimate matter like this, they are likely not merely be annoyed and feel wrong, but be angry. The response of the trans community seems that when they victimize a Gay man and the Gay man gets angry in discovering that he is deceived, that the Gay man is transphobic and the transman is the real victim.
The fact that this practice of deception is put forth as acceptable by a major Alphabet Soup group should show that the Alphabet Soup not only doesn’t consider the interests of Gay men, but finds them exploitable and that it is some sort of superior morality. It also shows that Alphabet Soup doesn’t have the same interests as the Gay community. One is a catchall bag for various interest groups with different agendas the other is an actual community of share interests.
NOT ALL TRANSMEN SUPPORT DECEPTION.
This essay and other essays I write on this topic are not to encourage the reader to say snide or mean things to transmen. Nothing is to be gained by this. They are human beings, and they imagine themselves to be men. I am not interested in theoretically debating whether they are men or not. The thing is that they will be out there and they will be working on their life’s problems like all of us. However, exploiting and deceiving Gay men should not be allowed to be a solution to their life problems.
I think at the present time, a lot of Gay men are not aware of this exploitation, but I also notice that on the apps more and more Gay men are making sure it is known that they are cis. I think that at some time there will be a push back. When Gay men push back I think we can expect that they will be denounced by the Alphabet Soup establishment and it will become very clear that the interests of the Alphabet Soup establishment and the Gay community aren’t the same.
UPDATE: BBC video whether a trans person needs to inform a person prior to intimacy. Only works in the UK.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0bqqgq8
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